This is long - I almost didn't watch it, but I am really glad that I did - but the time goes surprisingly quickly.
It's an episode of The Bulwark, a daily offering published by Sarah Longwell, a constantly interviewed political analyst, focus group maven and conservative former republican.
The moderator of this episode is Tim Miller who was Communications Director in the Jeb Bush presidential campaign.
Tim's guest is Margaret Hoover, Moderator of PBS's Firing Line and great granddaughter of Herbert Hoover.
It's a whole new view of Margaret.
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